Warwick University 'consent workshop' row: What does a rapis

[mistermack]

I think that a "rape avoidance" workshop would be better than a consent workshop.

Go through situations that might arise, and rehearse how to handle it.
Like if a woman is keen one minute, and struggling and screaming the next. If you've rehearsed it, and gone through the options, you might just back off, rather than trying to shut her up.
Or get rid of the insane idea that fucking her might turn a woman on, and get her to like it.
(which, I suppose in one in ten thousand cases might actually work, but is definitely not worth the gamble with those odds).
And women could benefit from exploring how some situations might lead to rape, and are better avoided before they get going.

If the objective is to reduce the incidence of rape, rather than clarify who's to blame, then a workshop might actually do some good.

[Rum]

Women do have rape fantasies (I had a girlfriend who did many years ago). Made this a bit tricky as an issue..*sigh*

[Hermit]

And cars are potential death traps.

[mistermack]

And cars are potential death traps.

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I know, but ....

[JimC]

Pappa needs to go to one of these workshops...

[mistermack]

Pappa needs to go to one of these workshops...

Naaaaaah,
Skepchicks are always gagging for it.
They say no, but they're just playing hard to get to get it hard.

Well known fact.

[Seth]

I've got no problem with that kind of "workshop".

Not everybody is fully prepared for every situation. It's easy to get misled by your mates in how to handle women, and lot's of men are bullshitters and liars, and can give young kids a wrong idea of what works and what doesn't.

Many rapes, I'm sure, start out with no intention of that sort, but a situation gets out of hand. If inexperienced people learn a bit about how the opposite sex thinks, and reacts, and how innocent things can go wrong, it's probably a good thing.

Many "rapes" aren't "rapes" at all, they are manifestations of regret, shame, embarrassment or vindictiveness.

If you don't want to get "raped" then don't put yourself in situations where you can be raped and carry a gun and shoot dead anybody who actually does try to rape you.

By the same logic, if you don't want to be accused of rape, don't put yourself in a situation where you might be accused of having sex without consent.

Indeed. Put wimmin in big black bags made of Kevlar, with locking zippers, and never let them out of their house without a male relative escort (who has been neutered) and I don't see that there will be any problems. I'm surprised nobody's thought of that...Oh, wait...never mind.

[Seth]

Women do have rape fantasies (I had a girlfriend who did many years ago). Made this a bit tricky as an issue..*sigh*

Yup. My ex-fiancee had some bondage/rape fantasies but I didn't trust her not to turn consensual sex play into a rape so I never obliged her...which pissed her off to no end and I suspect was one of the reasons she tried to get me arrested on domestic violence charges after she left. She kept trying to get me to read the "50 shades of gray" series, but I declined. Which is not to say that I would not have enjoyed trussing her up, spanking her good and hard and then fucking her into insensibility.

I'm eternally grateful that when she started to go nuts I immediately began video and audio recording everything in the bedroom, covertly. Saved my ass big time. Sometimes it pays to be a bit paranoid.