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Post by FBM » Wed May 28, 2014 11:12 pm

Well, if that were true, then you couldn't get sick from drinking water contaminated with bacteria, eh?
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed May 28, 2014 11:29 pm

FBM wrote:Well, if that were true, then you couldn't get sick from drinking water contaminated with bacteria, eh?
It very much depends on the bacteria! Stomach acids will kill most bacteria - that is why early claims regarding Helicobacter pylori were treated with derision.

Some bacteria (eg. E. coli) can endure a short exposure to stomach acid. Most bacterial infections enter the body via the lungs or damaged tissue.

Much of the danger in drinking unclean water is in non-bacterial parasites, viruses, toxins, etc.
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Re: Full of Shit? No? Well get a Transplant!

Post by JimC » Wed May 28, 2014 11:43 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
FBM wrote:Well, if that were true, then you couldn't get sick from drinking water contaminated with bacteria, eh?
It very much depends on the bacteria! Stomach acids will kill most bacteria - that is why early claims regarding Helicobacter pylori were treated with derision.

Some bacteria (eg. E. coli) can endure a short exposure to stomach acid. Most bacterial infections enter the body via the lungs or damaged tissue.

Much of the danger in drinking unclean water is in non-bacterial parasites, viruses, toxins, etc.
Also, it takes only a few pathogens to make it into the intestine for an infection to develop, whereas the supposedly beneficial effect of gut flora transplants may require a reasonable quantity of diverse intestinal biota...
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Post by FBM » Wed May 28, 2014 11:59 pm

From the OP: "Dr Ilan Youngster was one of the authors of a pilot study, published in April in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, which found that using frozen faecal samples, administered "top-down" through a tube in the nose, was as effective as using fresh samples in a "bottom-up" procedure."

A nasal tube delivers the material to the stomach, so enough shit-critters get through to do the work just as well as going up the other way. :biggrin: (Yes, that's a shit-eating grin.)
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Post by JimC » Thu May 29, 2014 12:49 am

FBM wrote:From the OP: "Dr Ilan Youngster was one of the authors of a pilot study, published in April in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, which found that using frozen faecal samples, administered "top-down" through a tube in the nose, was as effective as using fresh samples in a "bottom-up" procedure."

A nasal tube delivers the material to the stomach, so enough shit-critters get through to do the work just as well as going up the other way. :biggrin: (Yes, that's a shit-eating grin.)
It might be possible for the right type of tube to be passed through the stomach into the duodenum...
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Post by mistermack » Thu May 29, 2014 12:51 am

Why on earth would you need a nasal tube, when a capsule with a skin that dissolves in stomach acid would take the shit straight into the stomach?
I would have thought there must be another reason for that. A tube up the nose must be bloody horrible.
Maybe they are guiding the tube through the stomach and into the intestine?

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Post by FBM » Thu May 29, 2014 12:52 am

Those were separate trials. The capsule version is still under development, according to the article. Sounds like the way to go, though.
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Post by mistermack » Thu May 29, 2014 12:57 am

FBM wrote:Those were separate trials. The capsule version is still under development, according to the article. Sounds like the way to go, though.
Not much money in it. It's bound to take time.

How much can you charge for shit? The capsule is widely used in thousands of pills, but I guess if you want one that DOESN'T melt in the stomach, that might be new.
They would need to be frozen till used as well, otherwise they would just gas up and burst.
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