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Re: arrest warrant for ex-leader

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:56 am

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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:42 am

I've been hearing some ugly things from a few online chums in the region. Seems to me they've got more of a regional almost feudal mentality and each comprises of at least three different influential political group, from staunch and rather iffy nationalists who lean towards the west, some centrist groups heavily influenced by their churches and the old Russian loyalists. Much of the so called "revolt" has actually been violent response to violent actions which are separate from the other protests. So in short another mess.
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Post by mistermack » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:06 pm

Split it.

Do it now.

The end.
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Post by mistermack » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:42 pm

Not the end.
They just said, on the news, that the armed police squads, who were shooting at the protesters, have been disbanded.

This sounds unhappily like Iraq, where they disbanded the army after the war, and lost all control of those people, and left them with nothing to be loyal for. Widely accepted as one of the biggest mistakes made, in that conflict.

What are those squads going to do now? Stupid move. It's not looking good.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:23 pm

I have no doubt the men will be integrated in the regular police or army, leaving that kind of people with no livelihood is just too dangerous.
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Post by cronus » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:24 pm

Cock-up theory of history will always win. :prof:
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:36 pm

Oh, this is interesting.
I hear about a third of the Ukrainian opposition is Heil Hitler loving and Jew / Russia / Communist hating.
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Post by Warren Dew » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:16 am

mistermack wrote:Who would it harm? Ukraine doesn't have much of a history as an independent country anyway.
About as much as Poland. Split Poland too?
mistermack wrote:Or if it was clear that there was the threat of imminent genocide of ethnic russians, like in Georgia, they might be forced to intervene.
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Re: arrest warrant for ex-leader

Post by JimC » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:38 am

Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:Who would it harm? Ukraine doesn't have much of a history as an independent country anyway.
About as much as Poland. Split Poland too?
From what I gather, Ukraine seems to have a much more pronounced existing split between east and west halves than Poland ever had. That's not to say that an actual split should occur, but that there may be some basis for the possibility.

It worked for Slovakia and the Czech Republic...
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Re: arrest warrant for ex-leader

Post by Audley Strange » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:43 am

Tyrannical wrote:Oh, this is interesting.
I hear about a third of the Ukrainian opposition is Heil Hitler loving and Jew / Russia / Communist hating.
You hear the same things I do.
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Re: arrest warrant for ex-leader

Post by mistermack » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:59 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:Who would it harm? Ukraine doesn't have much of a history as an independent country anyway.
About as much as Poland. Split Poland too?
Wrong, and even if it was right, it wouldn't follow.
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