Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:51 pm

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Where the fuck did you read that Trayvon was in someone's back yard?
Reading articles about the night in question. Apparently, Zimmerman called 911 in the first place because Martin was walking between houses and not on the sidewalk.

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by Warren Dew » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:53 pm

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by tattuchu » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:07 pm

Originally I thought Zimmerman was a scumbag with a Dirty Harry fixation and Martin was a completely innocent young kid gunned down for doing nothing more than being at the wrong place at the wrong time. As more information comes out, I see initial conceptions proved inaccurate and the situation not so clear cut. When I posted on HuffPo that things were a bit more complicated than I originally suspected, and perhaps not so black and white after all, I got attacked for being a racist and Fox News troll :ddpan: When I responded in an effort to clarify my position, the mods didn't even let my post through :ddpan: :ddpan: It seems anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line in stating emphatically that this incident was racially motivated and that Zimmerman was 100% at fault and Martin was 100% innocent, and a perfect angel no less, is branded a racist :ddpan: :ddpan: :ddpan:
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Post by amused » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:13 pm

Try posting anything negative about the articles by Chopra and the homeopathy loon at HuffPo, and your posts never see the light.

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by kiki5711 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:14 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Where the fuck did you read that Trayvon was in someone's back yard?
Reading articles about the night in question. Apparently, Zimmerman called 911 in the first place because Martin was walking between houses and not on the sidewalk.
YES, you have any more imaginary evidence you can spout out with venom?
Minutes before Zimmerman opened fire on Trayvon, he told a dispatcher, ”There’s a real suspicious guy. This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. He looks black.”

The operator asked, ”Are you following him?”

Zimmerman answered, “Yeah.”

“Okay, we don’t need you to do that,” the dispatcher told him.
Sounds like the beginning of the recorded conversation. WHERE DO YOU HEAR ZIMMERMAN SAYING the guy I'm following, who looks black with a hoodie is walking between houses and in the back yards and I think he may be a robber?


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Yea, GO and find those selective untrue articles defending Zimmerman. You're just as bad as him.
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Post by kiki5711 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:16 pm

tattuchu wrote:Originally I thought Zimmerman was a scumbag with a Dirty Harry fixation and Martin was a completely innocent young kid gunned down for doing nothing more than being at the wrong place at the wrong time. As more information comes out, I see initial conceptions proved inaccurate and the situation not so clear cut. When I posted on HuffPo that things were a bit more complicated than I originally suspected, and perhaps not so black and white after all, I got attacked for being a racist and Fox News troll :ddpan: When I responded in an effort to clarify my position, the mods didn't even let my post through :ddpan: :ddpan: It seems anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line in stating emphatically that this incident was racially motivated and that Zimmerman was 100% at fault and Martin was 100% innocent, and a perfect angel no less, is branded a racist :ddpan: :ddpan: :ddpan:
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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by tattuchu » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:22 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
tattuchu wrote:Originally I thought Zimmerman was a scumbag with a Dirty Harry fixation and Martin was a completely innocent young kid gunned down for doing nothing more than being at the wrong place at the wrong time. As more information comes out, I see initial conceptions proved inaccurate and the situation not so clear cut. When I posted on HuffPo that things were a bit more complicated than I originally suspected, and perhaps not so black and white after all, I got attacked for being a racist and Fox News troll :ddpan: When I responded in an effort to clarify my position, the mods didn't even let my post through :ddpan: :ddpan: It seems anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line in stating emphatically that this incident was racially motivated and that Zimmerman was 100% at fault and Martin was 100% innocent, and a perfect angel no less, is branded a racist :ddpan: :ddpan: :ddpan:
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Post by Warren Dew » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:15 am

tattuchu wrote:Originally I thought Zimmerman was a scumbag with a Dirty Harry fixation and Martin was a completely innocent young kid gunned down for doing nothing more than being at the wrong place at the wrong time. As more information comes out, I see initial conceptions proved inaccurate and the situation not so clear cut. When I posted on HuffPo that things were a bit more complicated than I originally suspected, and perhaps not so black and white after all, I got attacked for being a racist and Fox News troll :ddpan: When I responded in an effort to clarify my position, the mods didn't even let my post through :ddpan: :ddpan: It seems anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line in stating emphatically that this incident was racially motivated and that Zimmerman was 100% at fault and Martin was 100% innocent, and a perfect angel no less, is branded a racist :ddpan: :ddpan: :ddpan:
Welcome to the world of people who actually look at the facts and think for themselves.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:19 am

kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Where the fuck did you read that Trayvon was in someone's back yard?
Reading articles about the night in question. Apparently, Zimmerman called 911 in the first place because Martin was walking between houses and not on the sidewalk.
YES, you have any more imaginary evidence you can spout out with venom?
You'll need to specify where I have at all spoken with venom.

You, on the other hand, have spouted quite a bit of venom, with racist posts and a vicious tone.

Imaginary? Fuck off. It's just so common, and central to the story, that I can't be arsed to bother with your silliness. Zimmerman called 911 and said the guy was walking between the houses. That's been the fact since day one. It's not something new.



kiki5711 wrote:
Minutes before Zimmerman opened fire on Trayvon, he told a dispatcher, ”There’s a real suspicious guy. This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. He looks black.”

The operator asked, ”Are you following him?”

Zimmerman answered, “Yeah.”

“Okay, we don’t need you to do that,” the dispatcher told him.
Sounds like the beginning of the recorded conversation. WHERE DO YOU HEAR ZIMMERMAN SAYING the guy I'm following, who looks black with a hoodie is walking between houses and in the back yards and I think he may be a robber?

Yea, GO and find those selective untrue articles defending Zimmerman. You're just as bad as him.[/quote]

I'm just as bad as him? Fuck you.

Here - look at the investigation reported by the Orlando sentinal - http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... k-teenager

If you read the fucking police report instead of shooting off your mouth based on the Huffington Post, then maybe you'd have half a clue that the matter is not simply one story with no potential issues.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:20 am

kiki5711 wrote:
tattuchu wrote:Originally I thought Zimmerman was a scumbag with a Dirty Harry fixation and Martin was a completely innocent young kid gunned down for doing nothing more than being at the wrong place at the wrong time. As more information comes out, I see initial conceptions proved inaccurate and the situation not so clear cut. When I posted on HuffPo that things were a bit more complicated than I originally suspected, and perhaps not so black and white after all, I got attacked for being a racist and Fox News troll :ddpan: When I responded in an effort to clarify my position, the mods didn't even let my post through :ddpan: :ddpan: It seems anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line in stating emphatically that this incident was racially motivated and that Zimmerman was 100% at fault and Martin was 100% innocent, and a perfect angel no less, is branded a racist :ddpan: :ddpan: :ddpan:
IF THE SHOE FITS.......as they say.
That shoe fits you. Look in the mirror.

You want to talk about venom? That is all you spew here, for some reason.

Someone can't even look at the facts here without being a racist? What a fucking joke.

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Post by amused » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:40 am

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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:59 am

Zimmerman called 911 and said the guy was walking between the houses. That's been the fact since day one. It's not something new.
show me where he said that from the start? from the very first call in to the dispatcher.

you don't like to be called on your bullshit, but you like to spread it like butter.

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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:01 am

Someone can't even look at the facts here without being a racist? What a fucking joke.
when your spouting false facts, it IS racist, and what is called "selective memory and pick and choose tactic".

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by Seth » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:36 am

kiki5711 wrote:
Seth wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
They do, in my experience. My neighbor is black. What they don't do, generally, is trespass across private lawns and between the dwellings. Most people, black or otherwise, use the sidewalk which is a device specially manufactured for people to walk on. The sidewalks also cross private property, but those areas constitute easements. Skulking through people's back and/or side yards, in the middle of the night, is generally frowned upon.
THAT'S A BUNCH OF BULL SHIT!!!!

white kids living in these rich neighborhoods are spoiled brats and do more damage that is ever reported and usually settled with money between neighboors.

what these WHITE RICH THUGS also do is drive their brand new corvettes or whatever to school sometimes racing down the street showing off their most expensive prize of the day, making lots of noise, total disregard for their neighboors, yell and speed, smoke and take dope, MORE than in poor neighboorhoods. JUST because they can afford it. THEY HAVE LOUD parties where drugs, alcohol, and anything illegal you can think of is passed around by a butler, or some other servant, they make noise, mess up the house, but hey it's no biggie, as long as they hire a bunch of Mexicans to clean it up after them.
How...racist...of you.
NO KIDDING!!!!RIGHT BACK AT YOU!!!!! MR. RACIST OF ALL.
This case IS all about racism.
It may be. And it may be about black racism against whites. Or Hispanic racism against blacks. Or it may be just another crime.
What if it was a real burglar with a huddie and he was white? Would Zimmerman reacted the same way, or would he just say "hi man how ya doing" and left?
I suspect, based on other evidence coming out in the news that he would have followed whomever appeared suspicious, as apparently he did to other residents of the community on occasion, to their alarm.
And you know that there was not an ongoing investigation by the police and DA how, exactly?
I did NOT say there was an immediate investigation, (because there wasn't), they only asked him a few questions and were satisfied with his answer and let him go,it only became FBI investigation after the news became viral.
And you know they only asked him "a few questions" before they let him go how, exactly? Were you in the interview room when they brought him to the police station in handcuffs? Somehow I think not. It is just possible that they let him go because the totality of the evidence they had collected both from the scene of the killing and from Zimmerman at the police station did not lead them to believe they had probable cause to hold him at that time, so they were compelled by the Constitution and the law to release him pending further investigation.

That's something that they, being professionals, would know...and you, being an internet pundit, would not. I'll go with what the police decided for now, pending further investigation and perhaps a trial.
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