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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by lordpasternack » Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:19 pm

Animavore wrote:I said hymns in particular because the lyrics are directly related to the appraisal of God and Jesus and I just can't relate to that... One thing I can not do is listen to a bunch of people sing in mindless wailings akin to the '4 minutes of hate' from 1984 all to massage the ego of an imaginary being. This music is clearly a form of brainwashing. Its rigid, unflexible and terribly annoying.
I treat it almost as I treat music in other languages that I don't understand. Music is emotional. I would suspect it probably existed before the development of language, and certainly, as babas, we all understand and respond at a fundamental level to music before we do to language. I can enjoy the aesthetic of the music, the emotion poured into it, by someone who really means what they're saying - without buying into their worldview.

Par exemple - I haven't the first clue what language this song is in, or what the fuck it's about (it could be about mowing the lawn, or sucking cock, for all I know) - but it's in my YouTube favourites:

Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.

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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by Animavore » Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:24 pm

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Animavore wrote:I said hymns in particular because the lyrics are directly related to the appraisal of God and Jesus and I just can't relate to that... One thing I can not do is listen to a bunch of people sing in mindless wailings akin to the '4 minutes of hate' from 1984 all to massage the ego of an imaginary being. This music is clearly a form of brainwashing. Its rigid, unflexible and terribly annoying.
I treat it almost as I treat music in other languages that I don't understand. Music is emotional. I would suspect it probably existed before the development of language, and certainly, as babas, we all understand and respond at a fundamental level to music before we do to language. I can enjoy the aesthetic of the music, the emotion poured into it, by someone who really means what they're saying - without buying into their worldview.

Par exemple - I haven't the first clue what language this song is in, or what the fuck it's about (it could be about mowing the lawn, or sucking cock, for all I know) - but it's in my YouTube favourites:
Well I like forgeign songs and world music but, I really don't think hymns are emotional, well... ok, maybe the ones black people sing but, certainly not those stiff white ones.
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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by Elessarina » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:30 pm

I love the Christmas carol "Oh Come all ye Faithful", I also love "Lord of the dance" as a song.

I love tonnes and tonnes of classical music ..

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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by lordpasternack » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:13 pm

Shine Jesus Shine



Another god-rock number. Casting Crowns - If We Are The Body

Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.

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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:00 am

I really love this guy's voice - he is a sufi moslem qawwali singer called Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn and his music is hypnotic and transcendant. It helps that he sings in foreign though - so I can just ignore the woo content.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LftlV9u ... re=related[/youtube]

Also, just listen to the delicate beauty of Arvo Pärt's Magnificat.



Or the mathematical precision of Bach's "Nun danket alle Gott"



The feelings of wonder and epiphany that religious music tries to convey (and rarely achieves) are universal and so can be enjoyed both with our without the god's bollocks dangling off of them! For me, the mere fact that the followers of ALL religions are capable of such transcendence in their music is a reminder of the universality of the feelings that are dubbed 'spiritual' and proof positive of the redundancy of any single faith's claim to singular correctness.
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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by lordpasternack » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:55 pm



Bump. :)
Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.

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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:50 pm

Tan Shim Ga
Korean song

I mo mi ju go do ju go
Il bek pon go jo ju go
Beg gol ri jin to de yo
Nok shi ra do i ko ob ko
Im hyung han il pyun tan shim Ka sil chul li issu rya
Im hyung han il pyun tan shim Ka sil chul li issu rya.

Although my body perishes
And yet one thousand times dies
My bones become ashes
Even my soul vanishes
Still all my love and all my heart
Unchanging remain with you
My everlasting loyalty
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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:38 pm

[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]

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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:43 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:
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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by Tero » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:56 am

aside from blues and some gospel like that, not much. Here is the best blues


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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdgrQoZH ... playnext=1[/youtube]

none of this joyous stuff for me
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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by hadespussercats » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:16 am

Well, since J.S. Bach dedicated all his works "Solo Dei Gloria", I'd have to say pretty much anything he ever wrote-- though I have a particular soft spot for "Wachet Auf Ruft Ans Die Stimme".

I also love Schubert's Mass in E Flat, and Beethoven's Mass in C. I could go on-- I'm a choral music lover, and most of the great choral works are Christian. But I'll stop with these for now.
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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by Ronja » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:38 am

I have always understood these both to be originally more or less religiously motivated. But with great, chill and/or tears inspiring music, I could not care less about the composer's motivation - it's the music, dude!

J. S. Bach: Toccata and Fugue D-minor (Always makes me shiver, in a good way.)



W. A. Mozart: In Diesen Heil'gen Hallen (If the guy has the voice, I cry. Every time. Salmela has.)

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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by Randydeluxe » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:52 am

I have a lot of songs that fit this category. Our shared history is embossed with beautiful works by J. S. Bach, Charles Wesley, and Fanny Crosby.

I think I'll choose just one. And to give it a level of difficulty, I'll go with something composed in the last decade. This one is as close to perfect as they come:


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Post by Trolldor » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:52 am

I threw up on every song.

Well, not the last few, just dry wretched, nothing left to throw up see.
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Re: Hymns/Religious Music You Like

Post by Trolldor » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:54 am

"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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