NRA

[pErvinalia]

Stop trolling, ffs. Jim is the most reasonable person on these boards.

[Cunt]

Stop trolling, ffs. Jim is the most reasonable person on these boards.

Not at all. I think with your new status as an MRA, you surpass him in reasonableness. Congrats! You've made it!

[pErvinalia]

Oh god, so now your OCD/Tourettes is "MRA". Let's see how many times you can say it in 24 hours. I think your record last time for an OCD compulsion was about 10 in 24 hours.

[Cunt]

Oh god, so now your OCD/Tourettes is "MRA". Let's see how many times you can say it in 24 hours. I think your record last time for an OCD compulsion was about 10 in 24 hours.

Well, it's actually you who is new to the movement.

My current OCD is how you flee direct questions. That was fucking hilarious! I put a reminder in my signature, so it 'auto-OCDposts' with every post, until I remember how to make you flee a subject permanently.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Yes, and those 2A fanatics in the US can also make that kind of horror-show happen.

The parallel doesn't work, despite the fantasies of '2A fanatics.' North Vietnam was essentially an entire nation devoted to its cause and supplied by two large military-industrial complexes, not random cliques of swivel-eyed goons with dreams of breaking into armories.

So you DO understand the assurance that citizens may have guns, though you think it's quaint, or ineffective.

In my opinion, equating an armed citizenry to 'freedom' is missing at least a few logical steps. As for said armed citizens being some sort of bulwark against tyranny in this day and age, I consider that nothing but a malignant fantasy.

OK, where from here?

Trump should make some guns illegal? To what end, exactly?

Feel free to cite any instance in which I've advocated making guns illegal.

What is the next step from here?

Let the actors guild tut-tut every few years about how the government isn't doing enough about the gun problem, while their armed guards escort their children to private schools? Is that really enough?

Let's start with Forty Two's proposal from here. While I might not agree with all the items on his list, it can serve here as a basis for discussion.

[Tero]

Anybody can get one of these now. I would call it semiautomatic. It is some variant of AR-15.Pops in cartride after cartridge. I say we give the guns nuts just black powder rifles. No need to go back to flint lock.


Chick fires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwR9di_admE
another bump stock without bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdAhTxyP64

[mistermack]

How is he firing bursts, if it's a semiautomatic? I thought it was one pull one shot?

Or has it got a bump stock fitted? He said he was running it in full auto at the start.

[Cunt]

Yes, and those 2A fanatics in the US can also make that kind of horror-show happen.

The parallel doesn't work, despite the fantasies of '2A fanatics.' North Vietnam was essentially an entire nation devoted to its cause and supplied by two large military-industrial complexes, not random cliques of swivel-eyed goons with dreams of breaking into armories.

So you DO understand the assurance that citizens may have guns, though you think it's quaint, or ineffective.

In my opinion, equating an armed citizenry to 'freedom' is missing at least a few logical steps. As for said armed citizens being some sort of bulwark against tyranny in this day and age, I consider that nothing but a malignant fantasy.

OK, where from here?

Trump should make some guns illegal? To what end, exactly?

Feel free to cite any instance in which I've advocated making guns illegal.

What is the next step from here?

Let the actors guild tut-tut every few years about how the government isn't doing enough about the gun problem, while their armed guards escort their children to private schools? Is that really enough?

Let's start with Forty Two's proposal from here. While I might not agree with all the items on his list, it can serve here as a basis for discussion.

The list seems ok, except that I don't see a step to change or clairfy the 2nd amendment...can't skip that, or people will stand behind it (armed)

I also don't know how it can be fitted around mechanics. I seem to remember Canada's 'long gun registry' being really silly in certain areas, because it's hard to define the kind of things about guns which are truly dangerous.

For example, is the semi-auto feature more dangerous? Or a 3-way gymbal with targeting system on a single-shot smaller rifle?

It's pretty complicated to write. Not saying it shouldn't be written, but it isn't a clear thing to say 'handguns'.

Canada has handguns restricted, I think fairly successfully, but I'm not even sure what successful means in that context...

[Tero]

How is he firing bursts, if it's a semiautomatic? I thought it was one pull one shot?

Or has it got a bump stock fitted? He said he was running it in full auto at the start.

i don't know the details. The last link I gave has small bursts with AR 15 and the second one he does is an AK-47

[L'Emmerdeur]

Anybody can get one of these now. I would call it semiautomatic. It is some variant of AR-15.Pops in cartride after cartridge.

That is a fully automatic capable AR-15. Not just 'anybody' can get one. At about 9:14 or so, he thanks an organization that loaned him an 'M16 lower.' That is the part that has a select fire switch and machining which allows fully automatic fire. These parts are available but they're very expensive and highly regulated. In the US, to own a gun with one requires extensive paperwork from the US government (see the National Firearms Act).

[Tero]

Seth would have made them parts himself! And the bump stocks anybody can get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwR9di_admE

[Cunt]

Anybody can get one of these now. I would call it semiautomatic. It is some variant of AR-15.Pops in cartride after cartridge.

That is a fully automatic capable AR-15. Not just 'anybody' can get one. At about 9:14 or so, he thanks an organization that loaned him an 'M16 lower.' That is the part that has a select fire switch and machining which allows fully automatic fire. These parts are available but they're very expensive and highly regulated. In the US, to own a gun with one requires extensive paperwork from the US government (see the National Firearms Act).

That seems pretty 'last decade' info.
I think one can print their own now, without the serial number. I remember seeing a home-gamer-journalist did it for a story. It took some handholding, but with money and a bit of study, he was able to print one with his own machine.

[laklak]

Yeah it's full auto. Don't see the attraction, myself. Most military M4s aren't capable of full auto because it's inaccurate as hell, you're out of ammo in a couple of seconds, and it melts a lot of barrels. 3 round burst is the way to go. I'd rather just jerk off.

ETA that said, I had a friend a few years back with a Class III license and a substantial gun collection. He had one of these

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Thompson 1921 "Chicago Typewriter". 100 round drum magazine, fired .45 ACP. He let me shoot it once, and I must admit it was jolly good fun.

[mistermack]

You dirty brother, you killed my rat ! Now you gotta pay see !

[L'Emmerdeur]

That is a fully automatic capable AR-15. Not just 'anybody' can get one. At about 9:14 or so, he thanks an organization that loaned him an 'M16 lower.' That is the part that has a select fire switch and machining which allows fully automatic fire. These parts are available but they're very expensive and highly regulated. In the US, to own a gun with one requires extensive paperwork from the US government (see the National Firearms Act).

That seems pretty 'last decade' info.
I think one can print their own now, without the serial number. I remember seeing a home-gamer-journalist did it for a story. It took some handholding, but with money and a bit of study, he was able to print one with his own machine.

Yes, I expect that it is possible to print one. On the other hand, a metal printing setup that might be capable of making a proper unit would come to about $120,000 at minimum. Not to mention that (in the US at least) you're setting yourself up for a federal felony charge unless you get the proper paperwork.