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Re: First we take the guns away from the street, then a year

Post by JimC » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:33 am

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Seth wrote: So fuck off and get the hell out of my country if you don't like that fact.
You don't even believe in society, so I don't know where you get the temerity to care or speak for a whole country. And you represent a tiny minority political view in your country. Tero is in a far better position to claim allegiance to the US and it's people.
Although by no means a majority, let's not pretend it's a "tiny" minority...
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:56 am

You are probably making the mistake of thinking of him as a libertarian. He's no libertarian. His beliefs are even more obscure than that.
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Post by JimC » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:57 am

rEvolutionist wrote:You are probably making the mistake of thinking of him as a libertarian. He's no libertarian. His beliefs are even more obscure than that.
Remember the support level for that good ole boy D. Trump...
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:59 am

Possibly. We'll see, come voting time..
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Post by JimC » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:26 am

I'm not saying he's got enough to win, but neither are his supporters a tiny minority...
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:46 am

You don't know how many there are until voting time. If 30million vote for him, then I'll believe it. There's been a number of reports suggesting the rebups won't endorse him if he wins the primaries. Apparently he's too crazy even for them! :o
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Re: First we take the guns away from the street, then a year

Post by Hermit » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:30 am

surreptitious57 wrote:While nine thousand deaths is still far too many it could easily be so much higher given the total number of guns freely available
A more useful comparison is the ratio between gun ownership and murder rates. I have picked the data concerning all 34 OECD countries from those lists and created a graph them.

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While there are a good number of outliers, the correlation between high firearms per population / high murder rate and the reverse is clearly discernible. It comes as no surprise that the USA comes in at #1 in gun ownership and #3 in murder rate, while Japan has the lowest rates in both.
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Post by Tero » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:42 pm

Whats's the peak between Portugal and Japan? I can't read it.

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Post by Tero » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:42 pm

Whats's the peak between Portugal and Japan? I can't read it.

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Re: First we take the guns away from the street, then a year

Post by rainbow » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:45 pm

Tero wrote:Whats's the peak between Portugal and Japan? I can't read it.
USA lite

Also in Switzerland nearly every household has a gun, but they can't keep ammo. That does tend to reduce gun violence.
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Re: First we take the guns away from the street, then a year

Post by NineBerry » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:45 pm

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Re: First we take the guns away from the street, then a year

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:44 pm

There is Italy, Something, I think Spain, Something, then Portugal. What are those two peaks?
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:51 pm

Unable-to-read-graph fallacy.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:06 pm

Photobucket fallacy. (no, literally. The link is dead)
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