Way to go South Carolina!

[Seth]

South Carolina Mulls Teaching About Guns In Schools
6:46 PM 01/07/2015

Blake Neff
Contributor

A pair of bills filed in each house of South Carolina’s legislature aim to eliminate the zero-tolerance attitude towards guns in schools by allowing or even mandating gun safety and Second Amendment-related curricula.

State Rep. Alan Clemmons, who introduced the House bill, says he was inspired to act by the story of a student who was arrested at school over a fictional essay he wrote in which he talked about buying a gun to kill a neighbor’s pet dinosaur. The zero-tolerance attitude towards guns in schools, Clemmons argues, is undermining knowledge of, and respect for, the Second Amendment.

“We are giving short shrift to the one amendment that protects all others,” Clemmons told The Greenville News.

Under Clemmons’ proposed bill, one-third of an existing nine-week educational unit dedicated to the U.S. Constitution would now be centered on education related to the Second Amendment, including textual analysis as well as history lessons explaining the amendment’s passage and the key Supreme Court cases it was involved with. Parents would be allowed to have their children sit out of these lessons.

Clemmons and his co-sponsors argue that it makes sense to give the Second Amendment greater coverage than other parts of the Constitution because the right to bear arms is what helps to preserve all other constitutional rights.

The bill has taken significant early flak, in part because it includes a proposed “Second Amendment Awareness Day” would have been scheduled for Dec. 15, which happens to be the day after the anniversary of the Sandy Hook school shooting. Clemmons says that is merely a coincidence, as he wanted a date that would fall near the Christmas break, when schools are less academically occupied. He has said he is completely open to using a different day.

Another source of antagonism is a clause requiring that the course content be either created or approved by the National Rifle Association, a pro-gun advocacy organization. It could not immediately be confirmed whether the NRA itself would consent to such a provision in the law.

The state Senate bill, proposed by Senator Lee Bright, is less ambitious. Bright’s bill would allow South Carolina schools to offer a course on gun safety, gun rights and marksmanship, but as an elective rather than as a mandatory part of the curriculum.

The bill wouldn’t let students bring guns to school, but would instead have them bused off-campus to gun ranges.

Bright, who launched a failed primary challenge against U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham last year, has a history of proposing gun-related legislation. Last year, he led a failed effort to allow citizens in South Carolina to carry guns without requiring a permit. Bright says this year’s bill was a response to critics who said universal open carry was unsafe due to a lack of widespread education regarding gun safety.

The two bills have a ways to go before becoming state law. Both still have to make it out of committee before being voted on by their respective chambers and potentially going before Gov. Nikki Haley.

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Under Clemmons’ proposed bill, one-third of an existing nine-week educational unit dedicated to the U.S. Constitution would now be centered on education related to the Second Amendment, including textual analysis as well as history lessons explaining the amendment’s passage and the key Supreme Court cases it was involved with.

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[AvtomatKalashnikova]

If neighbor of mine had pet dinosaur, would certainly be thinking of such things too. Documentary of Jurassic Park is all reason one need to fear from dinosaur.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Moved to Gun Club. Cos it's about guns.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Moved to Gun Club. Cos it's about guns.

Is not story of dinosaur menace in South Carolina and brave red necked school boy?

[klr]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

[Seth]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

I'll go you one better. All high school graduates should be required to recite the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights verbatim as a condition of graduation.

This rote learning should begin in the first grade and as the student advances through the grades he or she should be required to recite the sections learned that year in order to advance to the next grade.

Why? Because it's important that they understand the nature of the society they live in...and also I don't want any of the ignorant nitwits we graduate being able to say "I didn't know that I didn't have to talk to the police" when they get arrested.

I'd actually go farther in requiring middle-school and high school mandatory classes each year reviewing criminal law, both federal and state, so they can't say "I didn't know that was against the law."

[klr]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

I'll go you one better. All high school graduates should be required to recite the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights verbatim as a condition of graduation.

This rote learning should begin in the first grade and as the student advances through the grades he or she should be required to recite the sections learned that year in order to advance to the next grade.

Why? Because it's important that they understand the nature of the society they live in...and also I don't want any of the ignorant nitwits we graduate being able to say "I didn't know that I didn't have to talk to the police" when they get arrested.

I'd actually go farther in requiring middle-school and high school mandatory classes each year reviewing criminal law, both federal and state, so they can't say "I didn't know that was against the law."

Rote learning does not equal understanding.

[piscator]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

I'll go you one better. All high school graduates should be required to recite the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights verbatim as a condition of graduation.

This rote learning should begin in the first grade and as the student advances through the grades he or she should be required to recite the sections learned that year in order to advance to the next grade.

Why? Because it's important that they understand the nature of the society they live in...and also I don't want any of the ignorant nitwits we graduate being able to say "I didn't know that I didn't have to talk to the police" when they get arrested.

I'd actually go farther in requiring middle-school and high school mandatory classes each year reviewing criminal law, both federal and state, so they can't say "I didn't know that was against the law."

Rote learning does not equal understanding.

Seth wants madrassas for his economic religion.

See, if you start them young, you build a customer for life. Just like tobacco and Sunday School.

[Seth]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

I'll go you one better. All high school graduates should be required to recite the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights verbatim as a condition of graduation.

This rote learning should begin in the first grade and as the student advances through the grades he or she should be required to recite the sections learned that year in order to advance to the next grade.

Why? Because it's important that they understand the nature of the society they live in...and also I don't want any of the ignorant nitwits we graduate being able to say "I didn't know that I didn't have to talk to the police" when they get arrested.

I'd actually go farther in requiring middle-school and high school mandatory classes each year reviewing criminal law, both federal and state, so they can't say "I didn't know that was against the law."

Rote learning does not equal understanding.

Seth wants madrassas for his economic religion.

See, if you start them young, you build a customer for life. Just like tobacco and Sunday School.

Damned right I do. If we're going to indoctrinate our children, which is exactly what's happening to them now, I want them indoctrinated in the principles of liberty and freedom and the culture of the United States, not Marxism or socialism.

I'd fire every NEA-affiliated teacher and administrator in the country and pass a law preventing them from propagandizing Marxism to children if I could.

[Seth]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

I'll go you one better. All high school graduates should be required to recite the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights verbatim as a condition of graduation.

This rote learning should begin in the first grade and as the student advances through the grades he or she should be required to recite the sections learned that year in order to advance to the next grade.

Why? Because it's important that they understand the nature of the society they live in...and also I don't want any of the ignorant nitwits we graduate being able to say "I didn't know that I didn't have to talk to the police" when they get arrested.

I'd actually go farther in requiring middle-school and high school mandatory classes each year reviewing criminal law, both federal and state, so they can't say "I didn't know that was against the law."

Rote learning does not equal understanding.

It's a really, really good place to start. It's like rote times-table learning versus the incomprehensible Common Core math kids are being burdened with today. They can learn their times-tables by rote learning, which will give them more time to understand math without having to count on their fingers to multiply.

It's like learning language. You don't need to understand a word to learn how to pronounce it. Once you know the word and how its pronounced it's easier to learn what it means.

You don't teach a young child what a ball is by explaining that it's a spheroid made of flexible material filled with air which compresses and rebounds to make the object bounce. You teach them to associate "ball" with the object and then you teach them what a ball is and how it does what it does.

Same with addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.

Same with our fundamental documents. If they know the words, then they can inquire as to what the words mean both individually and in context.

And then they will be much more likely to remember the words as they grow older, which is the real point. If you remember the words you can always look up the meaning, but if you don't know the words because the school system's Marxist/socialist teachers and administrators have deliberately elided any mention of them in order to indoctrinate you in Marxist thought and obedience, then the words might as well not have been written in the first place... and the fucking Marxists in charge of our educational system KNOW this, which is why we had to pass a federal law compelling teachers to teach the Constitution ONE GODDAM DAY A YEAR. It's a travesty and what teachers are doing (or not doing) is IMHO seditious and treasonous.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

Does Fifth Amendment of American Constitution apply for dinosaur also?! Is land of madness when tyrannosaurus have rights!

[piscator]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

I'll go you one better. All high school graduates should be required to recite the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights verbatim as a condition of graduation.

This rote learning should begin in the first grade and as the student advances through the grades he or she should be required to recite the sections learned that year in order to advance to the next grade.

Why? Because it's important that they understand the nature of the society they live in...and also I don't want any of the ignorant nitwits we graduate being able to say "I didn't know that I didn't have to talk to the police" when they get arrested.

I'd actually go farther in requiring middle-school and high school mandatory classes each year reviewing criminal law, both federal and state, so they can't say "I didn't know that was against the law."

Rote learning does not equal understanding.

Seth wants madrassas for his economic religion.

See, if you start them young, you build a customer for life. Just like tobacco and Sunday School.

Damned right I do. If we're going to indoctrinate our children, which is exactly what's happening to them now, I want them indoctrinated in the Pillars of Islam and the culture of Islam, not Marxism or socialism.

I'd behead every NEA-affiliated teacher and administrator in the country and pass a law preventing them from propagandizing Marxism to children if I could.

I'm more of the Henry Fonda-type liberal. Henry Fonda was always John Wayne's boss.
I'd make the little shavers watch 12 Angry Men.

[JimC]

There is certainly room for rote learning, the times tables being the classic example. Also, a student's progress in maths is made, at least to a large degree, by doing large numbers of problems until the sub-skills involved become part of an unconscious toolkit. Some absurd "new-age" thinking condemns such exercises as old-fashioned and repetitive, thus contributing to the dumbing down of the population.

Having said that, there is also a need for lateral thinking and creativity, but not at the expense of solving enough quadratic equations until you can solve them in your sleep...

[Seth]

Maybe they should devote equal time to the fifth amendment as well. Just in case any of the tykes ever get Mirandized, you understand.

Does Fifth Amendment of American Constitution apply for dinosaur also?! Is land of madness when tyrannosaurus have rights!

If a dinosaur can comprehend the nature of the right and demonstrate a desire to exercise it, then I suppose it's entitled to do so, because that right (which is not granted by the Constitution but rather is a pre-existing right that is protected against infringement by the Constitution) is derived from a fundamental natural right of self defense which itself derives from natural behavior.