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Re: Only in America

Post by Svartalf » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:04 pm

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The lack of a well-funded universal education system in the US has reduced your educational attainments compared to most other western democracies.
Never fear, give France a decade, and the US will again look like a bastion of science and scholarship.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Tero » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:13 pm

Well, we have slums in big cities. Funding schools by local funds produces these poor schools. My son taught in one for a year. Families and their dwellings are in flux, nobody owns a home.Both parents work or else its a welfare mom.

With all the kids from this back ground they are not motivated.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Joe » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:42 pm

JimC wrote:
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The lack of a well-funded universal education system in the US has reduced your educational attainments compared to most other western democracies.
Well obviously. We elected a reality TV star with no political experience President. He did a shit job, and almost half of the people who voted, voted for 4 more years of it. :fp:

But that's not the only impact. The expense of education has blown up so badly that it's breaking Americans financially.

A case in point. My youngest daughter is graduating from college next month. She got a scholarship that paid about $39,000 toward her tuition at the same state school I attended from 1975-79 that cost me about $3,500, which I paid working at minimum wage jobs.

That scholarship covered 31 percent of her college cost. Had we not been financially fortunate, either she would start her working life in deep debt, or we would be approaching retirement in deep debt, because you can't pay $85,000 working for minimum wage.

That kind of financial stress isn't really good for a person's mental health either.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:20 am

Tero wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:13 pm
Well, we have slums in big cities. Funding schools by local funds produces these poor schools. My son taught in one for a year. Families and their dwellings are in flux, nobody owns a home.Both parents work or else its a welfare mom.

With all the kids from this back ground they are not motivated.
Along with the "Great American Dream" being constantly being thrown in their faces no wonder your prisons are full. We have arso-areas as well but that is especially where education and social services are being heavily invested in. Tight budgeting for education and health here hardly happens; if it justified it is paid for. Three of the main parties that will be in the coalition have health and education as priority and outside of politics. The last two of Rutte's Kabinets have been light in this area.

I can never see that happen in the US. Greed is more important.
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Post by Tero » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:10 am

Insert "but that's socialism" meme.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Fletch F. Fletch » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:16 pm

Education is our way out of this mess.

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Re: Only in America

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:09 pm

Education is the way out of every mess Fletch. It is really education, education and education. You can never give too much.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Svartalf » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:21 am

Education doesn't warrant that those who got it will do right. Many folk who got good education still turn out to be assholes.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Hermit » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:00 pm

Svartalf wrote:
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Education doesn't warrant that those who got it will do right. Many folk who got good education still turn out to be assholes.
True, but the lack of a good education makes undesirable outcomes more likely. Your argument resembles one that asserts there is no point in having driving lessons because we still get traffic accidents.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:46 pm

I agree with that Hermit. At least give everyone a half decent chance by giving them the best education possible. Nobody should be written off because they cant afford to pay. What they do with their life further is purely up to them.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Cunt » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:30 pm

I like the 'school choice' options coming up. Attaching the money to the student, instead of an administration sounds a lot more sensible.

Get those smart, greedy education administrators competing for students. Rather than the current set up I mean.

Parents will choose best, a lot more often than a distant administration will.
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Re: Only in America

Post by laklak » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:48 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:11 pm
Indianapolis shooter Brandon Hole bought the two assault weapons he used in his attack months after his pump-action shotgun was confiscated due to mental health concerns.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... gun-seized
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Re: Only in America

Post by Cunt » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:54 pm

laklak wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:48 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:11 pm
Indianapolis shooter Brandon Hole bought the two assault weapons he used in his attack months after his pump-action shotgun was confiscated due to mental health concerns.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... gun-seized
What we need are MOAR LAWS!
The government is terrible and racist.

And you should give up your guns to them, because reasons.

In other news, America is trusting the science!

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 7802972164
JUST IN: The Vatican has invited Chelsea Clinton, Dr. Fauci, New Age figure Deepak Chopra, and the CEOs of Moderna and Pfizer to speak at a May conference focusing on "health" and the "soul"
Sure glad all those experts are invited to the Vatican. It gives me nearly double my earlier confidence in both the Catholic Church, Dr. Fauci and Deepak Chopra.

All equally serious, and equally important.
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It is actually quite easy. A woman has at least one X chromosome.
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Re: Only in America

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:11 pm

You asked for guns:

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Not being racist:

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Re: Only in America

Post by Fletch F. Fletch » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:42 pm

Ugh. . Deepak Chopra is not a serious person. It's not guilt by association if they're at the same meeting, but like CNN's resident Dr Gupta, had "his friend" Deepak Chopra on to talk about coronavirus. That's ridiculous and I can't take Gupta seriously after that. But being on a debate stage or zoom call with Chopra in attendance isn't necessarily cause for concern. All of the people who shared a platform and challenged him were not discredited for it. Someone has to do it.

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