Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

[Gawdzilla Sama]

G.S., you know that gillie suit would never pass muster.

It would if you were hunting turkeys.

"Ain't the brightest of birds, now is they?"

[Jason]

Looks like a duck hunting setup to me.. considering he's holding a shotgun.

Which reminds me, where are all those erotic pics of you stripping out of your fatigues GS?

[Blind groper]

It's not buying a second hand gun that is unrestricted, it's buying a second hand gun from a non-dealer that is not restricted much. That's because a non-dealer is a person that only transfers a few guns.

Yeah, but some 'non dealers' sell an awful lot of guns.

IMHO, the best approach would be to ban hand guns in civilian ownership - totally - and set up a system where anyone who wants to own another kind of firearm has to earn a gun license by passing a test, passing a police check, and having a police approved gun safe to store the firearm in. Such a system would almost destroy the gun homicide statistics.

Anyone who want to play with a lethal firearm does so at a licensed premise, such as a gun club. Hand guns could be permitted, if owned by the pistol club, and always kept in a gun safe on the club premises. That would allow target shooting enthusiasts to maintain their hobby.

On the drug war.
I agree with you. It is ludicrous. Here in NZ, we used a rational approach to kill the heroin trade (though methamphetamine is still a problem). Heroin addicts go to the official provider and get methadone prescribed to them. Clean, free of charge, with sterile needles and expert tuition in how to use them. Drug pushers no longer try to import heroin. There is no money in it.

[Jason]

All firearms are lethal. Even pellet guns can be lethal.

You've moved from 'strictly handguns' to all guns.

[Gallstones]

G.S., you know that gillie suit would never pass muster.

It would if you were hunting turkeys.

"Ain't the brightest of birds, now is they?"

Wild turkeys?
Wild turkeys are difficult to hunt, they are wary, you have to call them in, and turkey hunters wear most of the camo, including for face and hands, of any hunters. They don't have to worry about hiding their scent with turkeys like they do with deer and bear.

Domestic turkeys are not the same bird.

[Gallstones]

Looks like a duck hunting setup to me.. considering he's holding a shotgun.

Which reminds me, where are all those erotic pics of you stripping out of your fatigues GS?

There's only the one.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Never hunted anything that couldn't hunt me back, so I'll take your word for it.

[Gallstones]

coito
You said that criminals get their guns from illegal sources. That is mostly incorrect. The problem is that American gun laws have a loophole a Sherman tank could drive through. On the second hand market, there are no restrictions. No limits. No background checks. No licences etc. This is the craziest aspect of American gun law ever. So a criminal, quite legally, buys a gun from any one of a number of supposed 'second hand' sources. According to my reading, this includes brand new guns of the latest and most lethal design, under assorted pretenses of 'second hand.'

The end result is that guns are held by criminals everywhere, and used in murders and gun crimes. If no one in the USA is prepared to stand up for the majority wishes, and rise above the tyranny of the minority (the NRA), and implement sane and rational gun laws, then the population as a whole will continue to pay the price in thousands of needless gun deaths, and 100,000 needless gun woundings every year.

A convicted criminal can not legally purchase or own a gun. They don't worry about the legality of it so much.

[Gallstones]

Never hunted anything that couldn't hunt me back, so I'll take your word for it.

You have to be good. A turkey head is a tiny target.

[Jason]

Never hunted anything that couldn't hunt me back, so I'll take your word for it.

Nothing to it. They just stand there looking at you stupidly until you shoot them.

[Jason]

Never hunted anything that couldn't hunt me back, so I'll take your word for it.

You have to be good. A turkey head is a tiny target.

I take the heads off of wood ducks with my .22WMR. Not exactly 'legal', but meh.

[FBM]

Senate Democrats to drop assault weapon ban from gun bill

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21849814

[Blind groper]

You've moved from 'strictly handguns' to all guns.

I listed what I would like to see, if it were possible. We all know that American gun enthusiasts and the NRA are not strictly sane. Nor are the politicians under the NRA thumb honest. With that level of corruption, there is no way the USA is going to develop sensible gun laws any time soon. Sadly.

A convicted criminal can not legally purchase or own a gun. They don't worry about the legality of it so much.

Which is why gun availability has to be restricted right across the board. Today, any murderer not in prison can buy a gun on the second hand market. If Americans are at all wise, they will plus that loophole, at least.

[JimC]

All firearms are lethal. Even pellet guns can be lethal.

You've moved from 'strictly handguns' to all guns.

Handguns are easily carried and concealed.

A bolt action hunting rifle is much less likely to be used for criminal purposes than a pistol, and most responsible hunters would have their rifle securely locked away between hunting trips, so less likely to be stolen, mis-used, or grabbed in a moment of anger, unlike a pistol in a drawer...

[Gallstones]

Never hunted anything that couldn't hunt me back, so I'll take your word for it.

You have to be good. A turkey head is a tiny target.

I take the heads off of wood ducks with my .22WMR. Not exactly 'legal', but meh.

Wood ducks!?