Blind groper wrote:http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self- ... -1993.aspx
To Seth, who believes that the USA has had more gun ownership leading to fewer murders.
That belief is crap. The drop in murder rate dates back to the 1990's, and was greatest in the few years after 1990, but as the reference above shows, the increase in gun ownership was only since 2011. In other words, the two are not related.
Horse, and shit. The only thing that matters, statistically, is whether or not the murder rate in the US
went up or went down as the number of guns in the US increased.
The murder rate went down as the number of guns increased!
Get this through your thick head. Your claim of "more guns, more murders" is utterly and completely refuted by this one single fact. There is no disputing it, there is no arguing about it, it is quite simply a scientific fact that only a mindless zealot ignores.
Causation of this correlation is utterly irrelevant because the claim being challenged is pure and simply "more guns, more murders." The facts demonstrate that this is not the case in the US. This means that there are other confounding variables that are responsible for the gross correlation you are attempting to support.
In addition, there is the inconvenient fact (inconvenient to you, Seth) that exactly the same drop in murder rates after 1990 happened all through the western world (everywhere there was a post WWII baby boom), even though none of those nations had any change in gun ownership. The drop in murder rate after 1990 had nothing to do with any increase in gun ownership, which did not occur till 2011, but correlated perfectly with a reduction in the percentage of young men in the population, as a result of the baby boom generation getting older.
Irrelevant to your claim. The observable fact is that there are more guns in the US than before, but the crime rate, including murders, is going down, not up. If your thesis were true, the murder rate in the US would be going UP with an increase in the number of guns in circulation. But it's not.
QED.
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