Another shot at the case against gnus

[JimC]

He'll practice and practice, and one day he'll be a lawyer!

[Hermit]

He'll practice and practice, and one day he'll be a bush-lawyer!

Most people know fuck-all.
Some people know a few things.
Moses knew many things.
Only God knows everything.
And only Seth knows everything better.

How much more Dunning-Kruger can you get?

[piscator]

What I have to say to the parents of Sandy Hook is that they should sue the state and the school district for failing to provide adequate armed protection for their children. She should also sue the school district for not using proper bullet-resistant glass in the entryway, which would have kept the killer at bay for the few seconds necessary for armed staff to respond and take him out, or at least engage him in a gunfight at the front door while children escaped.

But you're not really "technically" licensed to practice law in Connecticut, are you?

Don't need to be.

If I was a parent of a Sandy Hook victim, I'd tell you to shove your unsolicited and unqualified legal advice back up your fucking anus. Then I'd slap you until you cried. Then I'd call my attorney. Then I'd tell my husband and brother to machine your fucking warped aluminum head like you were a 1.6l Ford Escort.

[Seth]

What I have to say to the parents of Sandy Hook is that they should sue the state and the school district for failing to provide adequate armed protection for their children. She should also sue the school district for not using proper bullet-resistant glass in the entryway, which would have kept the killer at bay for the few seconds necessary for armed staff to respond and take him out, or at least engage him in a gunfight at the front door while children escaped.

But you're not really "technically" licensed to practice law in Connecticut, are you?

Don't need to be.

If I was a parent of a Sandy Hook victim, I'd tell you to shove your unsolicited and unqualified legal advice back up your fucking anus.

Which you're entitled to do, regardless of how stupid and inappropriate it would be. I'd even forgive you for your grief-based irrationality.

Then I'd slap you until you cried.

You'd try anyway. Probably wouldn't work out so well for you though.

Then I'd call my attorney.

You'd need to so he can get you out of jail for assault.

Then I'd tell my husband and brother to machine your fucking warped aluminum head like you were a 1.6l Ford Escort.

Wassamatta coward, aren't up to doing your own dirty work? You want to get them killed too? Ordering them to assault someone for no reason is a good way to have that happen.

If it were my kids, I'd be outraged that the school and government didn't do more to protect the children in their care. I'm outraged anyway. There's no excuse whatsoever for allowing hoplophobic idiots and left-wingnut teacher's unions to drive school security policies that make children more vulnerable.

The nutcase in California didn't get to execute a bunch of frat girls he was mad at BECAUSE THEY LOCKED THE FUCKING FRONT DOOR!

It's not rocket science you nitwit. Securing schools isn't that difficult. Building sally-port armored entryways with cameras and locked doors doesn't cost much and would have saved lives. Assuming he got through the first set of doors, a system that locks him into an armored-glass foyer like the animal he was is a pretty damned simple security precaution that doesn't involve any guns at all, now does it?

If the school isn't going to secure the facility to even this minimal standard, then every person in charge needs to be sued for negligence.

[Seth]

He'll practice and practice, and one day he'll be a bush-lawyer!

Most people know fuck-all.
Some people know a few things.
Moses knew many things.
Only God knows everything.
And only Seth knows everything better.

How much more Dunning-Kruger can you get?

I don't know everything better than everyone including God, I just know many things better than you lamebrain lefty nitwits here.

[piscator]

[Seth]

Nice cutouts of you there bud...

[piscator]

You must be way ahead of the legal curve in Conn. Seth, since no one's taken your advice yet and sued the State for not locking kids down and not training primary school educators to get in gunfights.
An attorney as gifted as yourself is probably making fine political activist hay right at home in Colo., though, seeing as how it's the spiritual home of school shootings, there should be lots of parents you've already talked to and who haven't smacked you in the face with a dead octopus.


But come to think of it, I don't remember hearing of any suits against any school shooting states for not locking our children behind bullet proof glass with armed nannies who are always ready for a gunfight. What gives?

[Gallstones]

Check it out, NPR. Isn't that a......liberal radio station?
National Review: Gun Control Doesn't Work by David Rittgers June 29, 2010

David Rittgers is an attorney and legal policy analyst at the Cato Institute. He served three tours in Afghanistan as a Special Forces officer and continues to serve as a reserve judge advocate.

The simple, undeniable truth is that gun control does not work.
...
Strict gun-control policies have failed to deliver on their essential promise: that denying law-abiding citizens access to the means of self-defense will somehow make them safer. This should come as no surprise, since gun control has always been about control, not guns.

Racism created gun control in America. Confronted with the prospect of armed freedmen who could stand up for their rights, states across the South instituted gun-control regimes that took away the ability of blacks to defend themselves against the depravity of the Klan.
...
Since the Heller case invalidated the District of Columbia's handgun ban two years ago, Chicago has served as the gun-control capital of the United States. Not coincidentally, Chicago is a dangerous place to live. Two weekends ago, 52 people were shot, eight fatally. Local politicians frequently ponder calling out the National Guard to patrol Chicago's streets
...
Advocates of gun control will not be swayed by the Supreme Court's holding in McDonald. No matter the evidence, the rallying cry will continue: If gun control "saves just one life" it will be worth it. This plea ignores the irony of crusading for individual safety by disarming all of society. That logic can now be squarely turned on the advocates of gun control. If it saves just one life — or many, since jurisdictions with more legally owned (and carried) guns tend to have less violent crime — we should create a sensible legal framework for gun ownership that does not hamper the right of individuals to exercise self-defense.

A generation from now, legal and policy discussions will look back and see gun control for the sham that it has always been. The real shame is that it took decades of political action, millions of dollars in litigation, and thousands of lives lost to end the preposterous idea that governments can reduce the number of victims of violent crime by first taking away their means of resistance.

[Seth]

You must be way ahead of the legal curve in Conn. Seth, since no one's taken your advice yet and sued the State for not locking kids down and not training primary school educators to get in gunfights.
An attorney as gifted as yourself is probably making fine political activist hay right at home in Colo., though, seeing as how it's the spiritual home of school shootings, there should be lots of parents you've already talked to and who haven't smacked you in the face with a dead octopus.


But come to think of it, I don't remember hearing of any suits against any school shooting states for not locking our children behind bullet proof glass with armed nannies who are always ready for a gunfight. What gives?

People are being deluded with smoke and mirrors by the anti-gun contingent into blaming guns and gun owners for something that their elected representatives could deal with by employing routine and simple precautions and preparations that significantly reduce the opportunity for an armed attack at a school. Only an idiot would continue to focus on guns when the discussion is about making simple physical changes that are largely invisible to students in order to secure the facility.

Bullet-proof classroom doors with electric closers and automatic locks, ballistic-rated classroom walls, sally-port man-trap foyers, electronic door control systems to ensure doors are not propped open, fences with intrusion detectors around playgrounds, automatic hallway barriers that can partition off the school with the push of a button, etc. are all technological advancements that can minimize the possibility that a shooter can get into the school and eliminate the possibility that he can roam the halls at will.

This sort of advanced thinking and planning will have a positive, immediate effect on keeping children safer, whereas obsessing about guns does nothing at all to prevent such attacks, period. You can enact all the anti-gun laws you like and it won't make a bit of difference to a killer who has a gun and is determined to kill schoolchildren.

But physically securing schools can and does have an immediate benefit.

So why would you even question this as an important aspect of keeping kids safe?

Perhaps because you don't give a fuck about schoolchildren at all, you are just dancing on their graves in your zeal to ban guns, like every other gun-ban jackass who does exactly the same thing every time somebody shoots up a school or shopping mall?

I think that's probably it. I think people like you and your ilk actually revel in such mass shootings because you think it gives you a better argument for banning guns. I know that's true of the anti-gun groups like Handgun Control and elected politicians who rant and rave after any such shooting.

[JimC]

As always, the solution proffered by US gun nutters after any gun related tragedy is more guns...

Fucking lunatics...

[Seth]

As always, the solution proffered by US gun nutters after any gun related tragedy is more guns...

Fucking lunatics...

Fucking anti-gun lunatics can't even read a post that advocates passive infrastructure safety and security modifications.

[Hermit]

As always, the solution proffered by US gun nutters after any gun related tragedy is more guns...

Fucking lunatics...

Fucking anti-gun lunatics can't even read a post that advocates passive infrastructure safety and security modifications.

...says the lunatic who keeps reciting the "more guns, less crime" mantra.

[JimC]

As always, the solution proffered by US gun nutters after any gun related tragedy is more guns...

Fucking lunatics...

Fucking anti-gun lunatics can't even read a post that advocates passive infrastructure safety and security modifications.

And earlier recommended that all principals should be armed...

[Seth]

As always, the solution proffered by US gun nutters after any gun related tragedy is more guns...

Fucking lunatics...

Fucking anti-gun lunatics can't even read a post that advocates passive infrastructure safety and security modifications.

And earlier recommended that all principals should be armed...

Damned right they should. The buck stops with them after all. That's what they get paid the big bucks for. At least 10 to 15 percent of the faculty and staff should be armed as well, along with the physical security, which would very likely nearly eliminate successful school massacres entirely, and would be highly unlikely to do any harm.