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Nelson Mandela

Post by devogue » Fri May 01, 2009 6:15 pm

How will history judge Nelson Mandela?

Do you think he is overrated?

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by Chinaski » Fri May 01, 2009 7:09 pm

Like Bismarck and Cavour before him, not so much an outstanding individual as the perfect embodiment of the times.
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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by CJ » Fri May 01, 2009 7:17 pm

I liked him. He was a very polite man.

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by klr » Fri May 01, 2009 7:26 pm

CJ wrote:I liked him. He was a very polite man.
He's not dead yet! :hmph:
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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by CJ » Fri May 01, 2009 7:28 pm

klr wrote:
CJ wrote:I liked him. He was a very polite man.
He's not dead yet! :hmph:
True. I meant he was very polite when I met him.

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by devogue » Fri May 01, 2009 7:30 pm

CJ wrote:
klr wrote:
CJ wrote:I liked him. He was a very polite man.
He's not dead yet! :hmph:
True. I meant he was very polite when I met him.
He was in Cardiff too? :shock:

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by klr » Fri May 01, 2009 7:32 pm

CJ wrote:
klr wrote:
CJ wrote:I liked him. He was a very polite man.
He's not dead yet! :hmph:
True. I meant he was very polite when I met him.
Name-dropper. :roll:

Well, you hardly think he was going to say "Get out of my fucking way, will you!". Most politicians need basic courtesy to get by. :hum:
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He was in Cardiff too? :shock:
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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by CJ » Fri May 01, 2009 7:39 pm

klr wrote:
CJ wrote:
klr wrote:
CJ wrote:I liked him. He was a very polite man.
He's not dead yet! :hmph:
True. I meant he was very polite when I met him.
Name-dropper. :roll:

Well, you hardly think he was going to say "Get out of my fucking way, will you!". Most politicians need basic courtesy to get by. :hum:
We had a few minutes to chat actually, if one is going to name drop I could always add Princess Anne to the list.

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by leo-rcc » Fri May 01, 2009 7:44 pm

Someone on a different forum:
Look at the great Nelson Mandela ,he fought the South-African racism ,won the fight and came to power.Where is South-Africa now? A crime and Aids and poverty stricken country.
Now it can be argued that these things are not Mandela's fault, but it did happen on his watch.
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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by Chinaski » Fri May 01, 2009 7:46 pm

leo-rcc wrote:Someone on a different forum:
Look at the great Nelson Mandela ,he fought the South-African racism ,won the fight and came to power.Where is South-Africa now? A crime and Aids and poverty stricken country.
Now it can be argued that these things are not Mandela's fault, but it did happen on his watch.
God is punishing Africa for being black.
Is there for honest poverty
That hangs his heid and a' that
The coward slave, we pass him by
We dare be puir for a' that.

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by CJ » Fri May 01, 2009 7:47 pm

leo-rcc wrote:Someone on a different forum:
Look at the great Nelson Mandela ,he fought the South-African racism ,won the fight and came to power.Where is South-Africa now? A crime and Aids and poverty stricken country.
Now it can be argued that these things are not Mandela's fault, but it did happen on his watch.
It was mostly the twat who followed him that was the problem. And of course the whites who kept the blacks uneducated are now reaping the rewards of that policy.

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by devogue » Fri May 01, 2009 8:19 pm

CJ wrote:
leo-rcc wrote:Someone on a different forum:
Look at the great Nelson Mandela ,he fought the South-African racism ,won the fight and came to power.Where is South-Africa now? A crime and Aids and poverty stricken country.
Now it can be argued that these things are not Mandela's fault, but it did happen on his watch.
It was mostly the twat who followed him that was the problem. And of course the whites who kept the blacks uneducated are now reaping the rewards of that policy.
Just playing devil's advocate for a second - what about the blacks themselves? Do they hold no responsibility for turning the country in to a basket case?

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Re: Nelson Mandela

Post by CJ » Fri May 01, 2009 8:24 pm

Devogue wrote:
CJ wrote:
leo-rcc wrote:Someone on a different forum:
Look at the great Nelson Mandela ,he fought the South-African racism ,won the fight and came to power.Where is South-Africa now? A crime and Aids and poverty stricken country.
Now it can be argued that these things are not Mandela's fault, but it did happen on his watch.
It was mostly the twat who followed him that was the problem. And of course the whites who kept the blacks uneducated are now reaping the rewards of that policy.
Just playing devil's advocate for a second - what about the blacks themselves? Do they hold no responsibility for turning the country in to a basket case?
The skin colour of the people concerned is not an issue, it's their upbringing.

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