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Re: Chicago

Post by Calilasseia » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:28 am

Meanwhile ... back on topic ... Chicago? Go see the Shedd Aquarium. It's on my "must see" list.

EDIT: Has the oldest living captive aquarium fish on its books - an Australian Lungfish, no less!

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Re: Chicago

Post by JimC » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:55 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:50 shot but "only" a dozen killed. Over a weekend. Which is about as many as are murdered in the UK in a week.
Remedial marksmanship classes clearly needed...
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Re: Chicago

Post by laklak » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:05 pm

JimC wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:50 shot but "only" a dozen killed. Over a weekend. Which is about as many as are murdered in the UK in a week.
Remedial marksmanship classes clearly needed...
Absolutely. Gangbangers ain't what they used to be. I blame holding the gun sideways with arm fully extended while yelling "I cap yo ass mothafucka". We clearly need NRA sanctioned, inner-city firearm training courses. Shooter's stance isn't pansy-ass, no matter what you're told by your homeys.
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Re: Chicago

Post by Rum » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:01 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:50 shot but "only" a dozen killed. Over a weekend. Which is about as many as are murdered in the UK in a week.
Well we have an average of two murders per day here for a population of 60 million. Chicago has a population of just over 7 million so per capita...

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Re: Chicago

Post by Kristie » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:14 pm

Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile ... back on topic ... Chicago? Go see the Shedd Aquarium. It's on my "must see" list.

EDIT: Has the oldest living captive aquarium fish on its books - an Australian Lungfish, no less!
We go there every time we visit Chicago!
The Field Museum is pretty awesome, also!
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Post by Calilasseia » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:31 pm

Kristie wrote:
Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile ... back on topic ... Chicago? Go see the Shedd Aquarium. It's on my "must see" list.

EDIT: Has the oldest living captive aquarium fish on its books - an Australian Lungfish, no less!
We go there every time we visit Chicago!

The Field Museum is pretty awesome, also!
Kristie, next time you visit the Shedd, take lots of photos of the fish, and share them with me. :)

If you can't identify some of them, I'll be able to help. Especially if the species are known to the aquarium hobby.

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Post by Seth » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:22 pm

laklak wrote:
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Clinton Huxley wrote:50 shot but "only" a dozen killed. Over a weekend. Which is about as many as are murdered in the UK in a week.
Remedial marksmanship classes clearly needed...
Absolutely. Gangbangers ain't what they used to be. I blame holding the gun sideways with arm fully extended while yelling "I cap yo ass mothafucka". We clearly need NRA sanctioned, inner-city firearm training courses. Shooter's stance isn't pansy-ass, no matter what you're told by your homeys.
Yes, we need exactly that but only for law-abiding citizens who will soon be armed...after more than a hundred years of victimization by the Chicago political machine.

I'd deploy the National Guard to hold basic weapons safety, marksmanship and small-unit tactics classes for every neighborhood, free of charge. I'd mandate that NRA gun safety and marksmanship programs be given in public schools to those without criminal records.

And then I'd have the Civilian Marksmanship Program donate a couple of million surplus military rifles to the law-abiding residents of Chicago, followed by armed civilian patrols of neighborhoods guided and assisted by National Guard troops.

The gang problem would go away very quickly after that.
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Post by Seth » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:26 pm

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Clinton Huxley wrote:50 shot but "only" a dozen killed. Over a weekend. Which is about as many as are murdered in the UK in a week.
Well we have an average of two murders per day here for a population of 60 million. Chicago has a population of just over 7 million so per capita...
Yup. Cities like Chicago, Detroit, LA etc. have violent crime rates high enough to skew the national numbers all out of proportion. They really ought to have two categories: Metropolitan Violent Crime and Non-Metropolitan Violent Crime.

The former would be highest in those metropolitan areas where guns are "banned" (to the law abiding only) and lowest everywhere else.

The obvious solution is to aggressively target urban criminals and gang members by activating the Unorganized Militia and using it to suppress criminal activity.
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Re: Chicago

Post by Audley Strange » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:49 pm

Seth wrote:Stay in the well-known tourist areas and if you're driving know the fuck where you're going because taking a wrong turn in Chicago can easily end your life. State legislators in Illinois are calling for the National Guard and State Police to move into Chicago to put a stop to the violence. More than 50 people shot and more than a dozen killed over 4th of July.

Personally, I won't get within a hundred miles of the place. Maybe 200 miles. Unless I'm driving a Ferret or something.
Fuck me, Nairobi isn't that bad and the gangs there sometimes drive around all night shooting machine guns at each other.

I can tell you work for the tourist board Seth.
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Post by rainbow » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:29 am

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Post by Robert_S » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:42 am

Up until about 20 years ago the de facto segregation was strictly enforced by neighborhood patrolmen at all hours. So there's a history of certain populations being subject to extreme opportunity deprivation and the predictable violence that comes from that.

It's not as bad as it was though. Add the art institute to the list of museums to visit.
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Post by Seth » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:37 am

Robert_S wrote:Up until about 20 years ago the de facto segregation was strictly enforced by neighborhood patrolmen at all hours. So there's a history of certain populations being subject to extreme opportunity deprivation and the predictable violence that comes from that.

It's not as bad as it was though. Add the art institute to the list of museums to visit.
Now the de facto segregation is enforced by a segment of the minority residents, who are prone to attacking any white folks that stray into their neighborhoods.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:04 am

Seth wrote:
Robert_S wrote:Up until about 20 years ago the de facto segregation was strictly enforced by neighborhood patrolmen at all hours. So there's a history of certain populations being subject to extreme opportunity deprivation and the predictable violence that comes from that.

It's not as bad as it was though. Add the art institute to the list of museums to visit.
Now the de facto segregation is enforced by a segment of the minority residents, who are prone to attacking any white folks that stray into their neighborhoods.
I didn't say it wasn't enforced on either side of a lot of lines. Black guys attacking whites for being in the wrong neighborhood were part of what I was talking about then I said "neighborhood patrolmen".

Of course it worked out better for the people living where more jobs happened to be.
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Re: Chicago

Post by rainbow » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:59 pm

Chicago does however have a monument to the Baked Bean.
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Re: Chicago

Post by Svartalf » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:56 pm

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