Wrong?...or right?

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Post by devogue » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:41 am

Anne Frank is just lovely in both versions - the epitome of hopeful youth.

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Re: Wrong?...or right?

Post by SteveB » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:43 am

That Winston Churchill ain't bad either. :naughty:
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Post by devogue » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:44 am

Nibbler wrote:That Winston Churchill ain't bad either. :naughty:
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Post by Tero » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:46 am

Wow, now they look like white folk.

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Re: Wrong?...or right?

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:56 am

My inner purist objects.

I tell him he is only one voice amongst many...
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Post by SteveB » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:57 am

JimC wrote:My inner purist objects.

I tell him he is only one voice amongst many...
Not a very good purist then.
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Re: Wrong?...or right?

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:00 am

Nibbler wrote:
JimC wrote:My inner purist objects.

I tell him he is only one voice amongst many...
Not a very good purist then.
He tries to do the right thing, but he's living in a madhouse...
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Re: Wrong?...or right?

Post by Red Celt » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:31 am

devogue wrote:Anne Frank is just lovely in both versions - the epitome of hopeful youth.
Have you read her diary? I haven't yet, but an ex did... and said that Anne Frank was less than pleasant - a brat caught in a bad place, at the wrong time (hence tragic) but she wasn't a very nice little girl.

Of course, my ex might be completely wrong. If I ever get around to reading the book, I might come to a better conclusion.

Edit: as for the colourisation of the photographs... just wrong. Things are being added that weren't originally there. Fine, if it's an issue of vanity in a personal image. Not fine, if it's the recording of a historic event. History should never be changed, else it is no longer history - it is an interpretation. That is also true of photographs... regardless of how aesthetically pleasing they are, afterwards.
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Post by SteveB » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:32 am

Good one, Celt.
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Post by Red Celt » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:35 am

Nibbler wrote:Good one, Celt.
Why... thank you very much. :{D
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Re: Wrong?...or right?

Post by devogue » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:43 am

Red Celt wrote:
devogue wrote:Anne Frank is just lovely in both versions - the epitome of hopeful youth.
Have you read her diary? I haven't yet, but an ex did... and said that Anne Frank was less than pleasant - a brat caught in a bad place, at the wrong time (hence tragic) but she wasn't a very nice little girl.

Of course, my ex might be completely wrong. If I ever get around to reading the book, I might come to a better conclusion.
A teenage brat indeed - mad with the hormones, selfish, you name it - I have a 13 year old daughter and she's a fucking nightmare at times, I can tell you. :lol: Anne Frank is like Pepys - so open, so honest and...er...frank.

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Post by Red Celt » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:35 am

devogue wrote:A teenage brat indeed - mad with the hormones, selfish, you name it - I have a 13 year old daughter and she's a fucking nightmare at times, I can tell you. :lol: Anne Frank is like Pepys - so open, so honest and...er...frank.
OK. I'll keep that in mind (in advance of actually reading it).
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:54 am

Red Celt wrote:
devogue wrote:Anne Frank is just lovely in both versions - the epitome of hopeful youth.
Have you read her diary? I haven't yet, but an ex did... and said that Anne Frank was less than pleasant - a brat caught in a bad place, at the wrong time (hence tragic) but she wasn't a very nice little girl.

Of course, my ex might be completely wrong. If I ever get around to reading the book, I might come to a better conclusion.

Edit: as for the colourisation of the photographs... just wrong. Things are being added that weren't originally there. Fine, if it's an issue of vanity in a personal image. Not fine, if it's the recording of a historic event. History should never be changed, else it is no longer history - it is an interpretation. That is also true of photographs... regardless of how aesthetically pleasing they are, afterwards.
The "original" black and white is an interpretation too. Which is more accurate?
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Post by Red Celt » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:06 am

rEvolutionist wrote:The "original" black and white is an interpretation too. Which is more accurate?
The profile photos are an interpretation of the person (as their clothing and pose were chosen), but the photo of the nuclear cloud isn't an interpretation. It is a static viewpoint of an event.

The most accurate are the ones with the least edits. :read:
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Post by Hermit » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:36 am

Red Celt wrote:as for the colourisation of the photographs... just wrong. Things are being added that weren't originally there. Fine, if it's an issue of vanity in a personal image. Not fine, if it's the recording of a historic event. History should never be changed, else it is no longer history - it is an interpretation. That is also true of photographs... regardless of how aesthetically pleasing they are, afterwards.
Apart from stating bald facts like "As Chamberlain stepped off the aeroplane waving a piece of paper and proclaimed ' Peace in our time.'" history is always imbued with interpretation. Depending on our point of view we regard some of those interpretations as good and others as bad. Same goes for colourising pictures that were originally created monochrome. Neither Lincoln nor Einstein, nor anyone else for that matter, existed in shades of grey. Colourising photos of them does not add anything. It is an attempt to recreate what the original photograph deleted.
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