When was America Great?

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Re: When was America Great?

Post by Joe » Wed May 30, 2018 1:38 am

laklak wrote:Don't know about great, but it was pretty nice a couple of weeks ago, before all this fucking rain.
Sorry Lak, it's probably our fault.

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Re: When was America Great?

Post by laklak » Wed May 30, 2018 1:45 am

I can stand a little rain for a 25th. Congrats!

Supposed to be almost great this weekend, just in time to smoke up that brisket sitting in the fridge.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 30, 2018 1:54 am

laklak wrote:Don't know about great, but it was pretty nice a couple of weeks ago, before all this fucking rain.
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Post by mistermack » Wed May 30, 2018 11:19 pm

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Re: When was America Great?

Post by laklak » Thu May 31, 2018 1:33 am

That's a documentary, you know.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by cronus » Thu May 31, 2018 7:52 am

It's always great on TV, from a few thousand miles away. The sun never sets on TV.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by rainbow » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:54 am

cronus wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 7:52 am
It's always great on TV, from a few thousand miles away. The sun never sets on TV.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:06 am

cronus wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 7:52 am
It's always great on TV, from a few thousand miles away. The sun never sets on TV.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by Śiva » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:47 pm

Your question hinges on what I, or, more generally, every individual considering, perceive to be 'great' or 'greatness' (within the context of that which we can generally agree to be the criteria of 'greatness' in a nation). This isn't as trivial a problem as it may seem - as you may know people are hardly uniform in their beliefs and values.

Personally, I don't think America ever was 'great,' at least not in whole. You could make the argument that the Union stood for equality, human rights, and things of that sort in the American Civil War, but America has never really stopped being motivated by the fear and anger stemming from their racial prejudices; and that alone is enough to disqualify them from 'greatness' in my books. Now add homophobia (and phobias of other LGBTQ) and they're right out.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:30 pm

How could it ever be great when it has almost continually been a world aggressor since its conception.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by Śiva » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:29 pm

American history has been largely one of aggression, but they also had extended periods where an isolationist foreign policy, and public opinion, held sway. It took a lot of propaganda work to convince the American people to join the Great War, as WWI was known at the time, which delayed America's entrance into the war by about 2 years.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:32 pm

well, the period they lived isolated under the Monroe doctrine, they were busy conquering territory from the Indians and the Spanish/Mexicans.
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by Śiva » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:37 pm

That's a fair point, and I'm far from ready to defend perfidious America, I just want to keep the vehemence grounded. 8-)
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Re: When was America Great?

Post by laklak » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:39 pm

Pesky Redskins and effete Spaniards. We showed 'em, By Gum!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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